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How To Size A Winch

I’ve been looking for a winch to pull a full sized truck on to a trailer and came across this excellent formula for figuring out what size is needed.  Thanks to Pacific Marine and Industrial for posting these up.  I am re-posting here to make sure they aren’t lost.

The 2012 4×4 Ram weighed in at 5700lbs so using the following formula;
5700(.372+.05) = 2405
That is assuming the trailer ramps are about 40 degrees and using the high end of load on wheels value.

Required Line Pull = W(Gr+Cf)
W= Weight
Gr = Grade Resistance
Cf = Coefficient of Friction

They even provided some tables with friction and grade values already populated.

Coefficient of Friction
.40-.60    Steel on Steel
.40-.60    Wood on Concrete
.30-.70    Steel on Concrete
.02-.05    Load on Wheels
.05-.10    Load on Rollers
Grade Resistance
% Grade    GR
5             0.05
10            0.1
20            0.196
30            0.288
40            0.372
50            0.448
60            0.513
70            0.573
80            0.624
90            0.669
100           0.701
200           0.896
400           0.97
Vertical      1
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400EX Parts TRX450R

Moose Racing Thumb Throttle

I installed Moose Racing thumb throttles on both the 400ex and 450R.  The Motion Pro twist throttles worked fine but it was just too hard to control in turns.

After some play riding in Glamis and testing in the Arizona desert, the Moose thumb throttle is working well and is fairly easy to push.  The longer lever takes some getting used to since it places the idle position a lot further back.

The thumb lever was binding against the brake lever dust boot on the 400.  It needs to be a little further out on the handle bars so they don’t touch.  I had to trim the gripto get the thumb throttle body where it needed to be.

The throttle stop screw on the side of the thumb throttle walked in on both units and made it impossible to give the bike any gas.  Loctite fixed that.

I also had to go back to oem style throttle cables.  The ones that come with the Motion Pro twist kit are too long.

Moose Thumb Throttles ATV, quad

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Parts TRX450R

Installing a Motion Pro Twist Throttle Conversion

I recently installed a Motion Pro Twist Throttle Kit on my 2005 Honda 400EX.  It works so well, I am now installing the similar conversion on my 2004 450R.

This time I will be not be removing the handle bars or plastics.  I am also installing a Pro Armor kill switch at the same time.  Both projects require the fuel tank to be removed.  I will document the kill switch details in another post.

1 Remove the old grips

Whoever installed the grips on these bars used just a touch of glue, so they were easy to remove and very easy to clean up.  I used a pair of wire cutters to clip the ends of the grips open, then tore them back like a candy wrapper.
The Pro Taper handle bars have a diamond pattern cut in the ends to hold the grips better, so they don’t need as much glue.

2 Remove the fuel tank

There are 2 bolts and 2 straps that hold on the fuel tank.  There are also 2 bolts holding the front plastic to the fuel tank.450R Plastic Buckle

  • Remove the seat
  • Reach over the air filter, towards the carburetor and release the straps from the frame.

 

  • Remove the 2 bolts on each side holding the plastic to the tank.450R Fuel Valve and Line
  • Pull the plastic away from the tank far enough to fit a wrench in between and remove the bolts that hold the gas tank to the frame.
  • Turn the fuel valve to the Off position.
  • Remove the fuel line from the carburetor.
  • Lift the gas tank up off the bike.

3 Remove the thumb throttle

  • Remove the 2 screws from the bottom of the thumb throttle assembly on the handle 450R Throttle Cable at Carbbars.  Let the cable and assembly hang over the hood.
  • Remove the plastic cover from the side of the carb.  There is one Phillips screw near the top of the cover, then lift and pull it out.
  • Detach the end of the cable from the lever.  You can pull down on the cable to create slack, then slide the ball out of the lever.
  • Loosen the lock nut at the top of the carb where it threads in and unscrew the cable end from the carburetor.
  • Guide the throttle cable out through the front of the quad.

4 Install the Motion Pro Twist Throttle Kit

  • Guide the throttle cable back through the quad, reversing the way the original one Motion Pro Twist Throttlecame out.
  • Thread the cable in to the top of the carb and attach the end to the throttle lever.
  • Back the threads out until there are a couple rows showing inside the carburetor and tighten the lock nut.
  • Assemble the twist grip and the cable half of the twist throttle and slide them on to the handle bar.
  • Insert the cable in to the housing and attach it to the twist grip. then screw the two halves of the housing together to tighten it to the bars.
  • Twist the throttle all the way open and make sure it returns to closed without any binding.
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400EX Parts TRX450R

How To Install Honda TRX450R Front Shocks On A TRX400EX

I ordered a set of used 450R shocks from a seller on Ebay.  They came off a 2008 TRX450R.  They didn’t look too abused, so I went ahead and installed them on my 400EX without rebuilding them.

I read about swapping 450R shocks on a 400EX in several articles on the Internet.  They all said you have to grind the shocks, but none really described how to do it.  After holding the shocks in place, I could see that it would be much better to grind a little off the upper shock mount than the actual shock body itself.

After grinding the mount, the top of the shock body still hit where the nut is welded in for the body mount. (Inside the shock  mount tab)  If you really don’t want to grind on your shocks, you could cut off the bolt and tack weld the body mount right to the top of the shock tab, but I chose to grind the shock.  It was just a tiny shave off the surface to make it fit.  If you put the top of the shock in the mounting tab and wiggle it around, trying to line up the bolt hole, you will scratch the surface of the shock enough to figure out where to grind.

With the stock front compression settings at he first notch, the front of the frame measured 12 1/2 inches from the ground.  After swapping in the 450R shocks, the same spot measures 13 inches.  The a-arms are at the bottom of their travel with no rider.  the compression on the 450R schocks is all the way at the top (no extra compression)

TRX400EX Stock Front ShocksHere is a picture of the stock 400EX front shocks before the work.  The frame height here is 12 1/2 inches

 

 

TRX400EX Stock Front Right ShockHere’s a shot of the 400ex stock front shock on the right side.

 

 

2005 TRX400EX vs 2008 TRX450R ShockThe 400ex shock is at the top of this picture.  You can see the 450r shock is a little bit longer.  When you take off the stock shocks, the a-arms drop a little.  When you put the 450r’s in, they use up all the space.

 

Honda 400EX Upper Shock MountThis is the upper shock mount before any grinding.  The shock hits the rear part of the mount at the lower curve.

 

 

Honda 400EX Upper Shock Mount After GrindingHere is the upper mount after grinding away enough material so the shock fit without hitting the inner part.  The bolt hole still wouldn’t line up.  The top of the shock needs to be ground just a tiny bit.

 

Honda TRX450R Front Shock Top After GrindingIn this picture you can see the small spot that needed to be ground off.  You could also try grinding the nut inside of the shock mount, but since it was such a small amount, I chose to do it this way.

 

TRX400EX With TRX450R ShocksYou can see the 450R shock mounted in the 400x tabs in this picture.

 

 

Honda 400EX With 450R Shocks

This is the final product.  With the 450R  shocks mounted, the front end sits half an inch higher than stock.  The suspension feels much firmer on compression and the rebound is smooth.  Gone is the bounce of the stock 400 shocks.  After riding around the yard, the front end feels way more stable, and it doesn’t lean as much turning.  The real test will be in the sandy whoops at the river bed later this week.

 

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TRX450R Front Shocks Ordered

I bought a set of used front shocks from a 2007 450R off Ebay.  The last race finished off my stock 400s.  From what I’ve read, some of these bolt right on and others need to be ground down a little bit but either way they are a big upgrade from the originals.

Depending on the condition they are in, I’ll either try them out for one race or rebuild them right away.